Training yourself

[1_istallion_1]

Hi guys,

I'm absolutely new to this game and I am currently contemplating 2 options:

1. Read up on as much material as possible and practice it on a weekly basis when I go out with my friends
2. Spend about 2-3 grand on a seminar that might somewhat fasttrack me to achieving success

Being somewhat strapped for cash right now, I am really contemplating the first option. Also, have any of you guys attended any of the seminars and/or tried the game by yourself with all the online information, videos, guides etc. and have had success?

Holla back.

[1_istallion_1]

Hey renagade680,

Really appreciate the words of encouragement. I finished reading 'The Game' by Neil Strauss this week and have started dabbling with Mystery's pick up techniques. Went out to a club tonight and had one of the worst nights of my life. I decided that I would not drink and try the whole pick up thing. As soon as I entered the club - I COMPLETELY FROZE UP FOR THE REST OF THE NIGHT. Every time a girl walked by, cute/hot/fugly etc., I was able to say nothing. I have no idea how many 'sets' I staled out simply by staring or doing nothing. It's almost I was in a daze. This is not something new for me - I have always had this problem with good looking women. And I'm pretty sure that women can easily see this written all over me. When I'm with a girl that I'm not attracted to or is not attractive, I can talk/tease/flirt with ease. In the bar/club, it's almost like I'm stuck in my head and refuse to get out.

Tomorrow night I'm going to try again, and again and again until I master this aspect of my life. I totally agree with you that you can read as much pickup material you want but it won't be of any use until you practice it in the field. None of my friends are comfortable with women so I can't really talk to them about any of this. In any case, tomorrow night I'm simply going to ignore the fact that I'm going to get a phone number and talk to every damn girl that I see. Be it a 2/3/4/5 set. Doesn't matter if I get shot down, doesn't matter if they're fugly, fat etc. Every girl. I have to break away from this approach anxiety as soon as possible because it is killing me.

[rebel41]

As far as your two options go. I would definitely say to try the online stuff first. First of all it's free. Also, you NEED field experience either way. It's just like learning anything, martial arts, guitar, etc. You can learn all you want, but until you practice what you are learning, you really aren't learning to play guitar, or whatever. If you try all this stuff and are still stuck. Then maybe try a seminar. You would probably get your bad habits corrected and you can immediately put corrections into action since you already know what they are talking about and what you need to do.

Don't be bummed about the "bad night out." I had one of those a couple months ago too. There is no such thing as a "bad night" especially if you learn something. Remember: you disqualify yourself, you neg, these are tricks to make is seem to the girl like you are just out having fun, and just happen to find her. YOU end up liking HER so you take it further cause YOU want to. Because of this, if you start off just out having fun, you are already in the right mindframe. Read this thread:

http://forum.seductionbase.com/showthread.php?t=171

Pay special attention to what Tarzan and I say about getting your energy high before you even get to the club.

There is also another thread don't know where about the drinking discussion. We feel as though the best option is to drink, but control yourself. I would say limit yourself to 1 or 2 drinks. Just babysit them. You don't really want to be the guy who looks uncomfortable without a drink in his hand. You also don't want to be too drunk to where you can't be sharp on your material.

[silkysmooth]

Hey guys,

I'm pretty new to this myself but the thing that I noticed that helped me get started using these techniques is to focus on one step at a time. The very first night I went out to attempt this, I was worried about doing way too much and I locked up, I only opened one set and I was pissed at myself. Then on my second night I decided that I was just going to focus on opening a few sets. I did that and then started running a couple routines towards the end of the night. I felt this was a really great strategy and it allows you to feel that you arent doing anything too big and alleviates some approach anxiety. Hope that helps you guys talk to you soon.